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Sanding Sealer

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Does anyone use this, and if you do you you use thinners to water it down?

Now my question is, why water it down? :thinks:
 

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i use sealer, but i use a product from Tru oil, not the shellac version, and i use it neat.. and only when i finish with tru oil
 

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I use it watered down because that is what i was taught ... :goesred:

Now tell us if you actually use it to? :whistling:
 

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Wild guess, but given that the idea with sanding sealer is that it soaks into the grain, maybe the advice to thin it comes from a desire to make it run better into the grain? I haven't used it yet, but plan to as applying dye to wood without sanding sealer can be a bit of a crapshoot.

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Sorry, my brain started working after I hit 'Post'. There's an article in the latest issue of American Woodworker about using sanding sealer to get a more consistent finish when you dye wood (or stain, I think). The thinning reduces the 'sealing' effect, allowing more dye into the wood. So if neat sanding sealer led to a pale finish (very little dye able to penetrate), a thinned coat would lead to a darker finish (more dye able to penetrate). Maybe that's got something to do with it?

For clarity, the sanding sealer is applied BEFORE the dye. Make sense?

David
 

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Sorry, my brain started working after I hit 'Post'. There's an article in the latest issue of American Woodworker about using sanding sealer to get a more consistent finish when you dye wood (or stain, I think). The thinning reduces the 'sealing' effect, allowing more dye into the wood. So if neat sanding sealer led to a pale finish (very little dye able to penetrate), a thinned coat would lead to a darker finish (more dye able to penetrate). Maybe that's got something to do with it?

For clarity, the sanding sealer is applied BEFORE the dye. Make sense?

David


Some good info there David, thanks for finding that ... :thumbs:

Thinners is used as a 50/50 mix with sanding sealer purely to make it go further and I got that info from a professional turner.

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Terry

Terry, this is what i was also taught, hence my earlier reply, now David has added a new which also makes sense ... :thinks:
 

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The tins i have of both the sealer and the thinners must be well into their third year, and still a third left, so thinning this down certainly is a saver ... :bwink:
 

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Sorry, my brain started working after I hit 'Post'. There's an article in the latest issue of American Woodworker about using sanding sealer to get a more consistent finish when you dye wood (or stain, I think). The thinning reduces the 'sealing' effect, allowing more dye into the wood. So if neat sanding sealer led to a pale finish (very little dye able to penetrate), a thinned coat would lead to a darker finish (more dye able to penetrate). Maybe that's got something to do with it?

For clarity, the sanding sealer is applied BEFORE the dye. Make sense?

David

Thinners is used as a 50/50 mix with sanding sealer purely to make it go further and I got that info from a professional turner.

Regards

Terry

I use it watered down because that is what i was taught ... :goesred:

Now tell us if you actually use it to? :whistling:

I asked as i am in the process of buying and was told that you need to water it down, but the chap couldn't tell me why. The kind gentlemen above have answered my question and now my mind is at ease. :ciggrin:
 

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Since i started turning i have always used sealer, but only recently with it watered down. To be honest i cant tell the diference. :nooidea:
 
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