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Jimjam66
29-05-13, 14:43
Anyone got any idea where I might get rollerball springs from? They're the little ones that go inside the finial and put pressure on the rollerball refill to push it out of the nib. I'm going to try machining rollerball sections (on my spanking new Warco mini lathe!) but won't get far without the springs to keep the refill in tension.

The usual Yankee suspects supply them (Indy-Pen-Dance, Silverpenparts, PSI) but I don't fancy paying $20 to ship a tiny bag of springs across the pond! Any ideas?

Neil
29-05-13, 14:57
PenCrafts.co.uk (http://www.pencrafts.co.uk) have a variety of springs.

Jimjam66
29-05-13, 15:53
PenCrafts.co.uk (http://www.pencrafts.co.uk) have a variety of springs.

Cheers Neil! Not ideal - they are ballpoint 'sleeve' springs (go over the narrow section behind the nib to ensure the refill retracts properly). But better than nothing if they're the best I can get ...

:thumbs:

Jim
29-05-13, 17:42
Cant help you with the springs David, but can you give us a review on the lathe when you have used it a few times please ... :thinks:

turnaround360
29-05-13, 17:44
David,Could these help Conical Springs - Spring Manufacturers, Suppliers and Stockists - Assoc Spring for UK Springs (http://www.assocspring.co.uk/p/19/conical_springs/Frankie).

clumsysod
29-05-13, 18:34
I'll see what I can do for you at the weekend.

Jimjam66
29-05-13, 18:50
Cant help you with the springs David, but can you give us a review on the lathe when you have used it a few times please ... :thinks:

Will do, Jim! First thing I did was break some teeth on the leadscrew drive gear ... Grrrrrr! Stupid doesn't quite cover it! Got a replacement today.


David,Could these help Conical Springs - Spring Manufacturers, Suppliers and Stockists - Assoc Spring for UK Springs (http://www.assocspring.co.uk/p/19/conical_springs/Frankie).

Absolutely perfect, Frankie! Bit dear, though - 4 a spring?!?!? :shocking:


I'll see what I can do for you at the weekend.

Thanks George, I appreciate it.

bellringer
29-05-13, 19:06
[QUOTE=Jimjam66;7324]Will do, Jim! First thing I did was break some teeth on the leadscrew drive gear ... Grrrrrr! Stupid doesn't quite cover it! Got a replacement today.



how did you do it :thinks:

Jimjam66
29-05-13, 20:13
These mini lathes come with NO user guide (what you get is generic and fifteen years or so out of date), so I couldn't figure out what a certain tang on the end of the lead screw was for. Tightened it, turned on the lathe, heard a bang followed by some grinding ... Turns out it locks the lead screw ...

:2cry:

Jim
29-05-13, 20:20
Easy done David.... :whistling::whistling::whistling::whistling::whist ling::whistling::whistling:

Pete B
29-05-13, 20:55
Hi,

you could try Ian Jeffrey at Pen Refills for Rollerball Pens and Ballpoint Pens (http://www.schmidtpenrefills.co.uk/)
He sells all the Schmidt stuff and i am pretty sure will have springs but you might have to buy a few.

Regards

Pete

Jimjam66
29-05-13, 21:29
Hmmm, thanks for that link, Pete. Not what I had in mind initially, but this cartridge rollerball section (http://www.schmidtpenrefills.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=431&products_id=1010) might be a better idea. Ever used one? I suspect they say it doesn't work with cartridge converters because you can't draw ink up through the ball to refill it. So just disconnect the converter, refill it and then connect it again. Simples!

Neil
29-05-13, 21:38
Cheers Neil! Not ideal - they are ballpoint 'sleeve' springs (go over the narrow section behind the nib to ensure the refill retracts properly). But better than nothing if they're the best I can get ...

:thumbs:

David - look again, they're rollerball springs! There are two different types:

Pen spring for Jr. Gentleman Pen kits For Jr. Gentlmens but may fit others Length 2..
and
Pen Springs for Gold classic elite rollerball Pen Kits For Gold Classic Elite Rollerball Pen Kit..

Regards

Neil

Jimjam66
30-05-13, 15:04
David - look again, they're rollerball springs! There are two different types:

Pen spring for Jr. Gentleman Pen kits For Jr. Gentlmens but may fit others Length 2..
and
Pen Springs for Gold classic elite rollerball Pen Kits For Gold Classic Elite Rollerball Pen Kit..

Regards

Neil

Sorry mate, had a quick glance and didn't pay enough attention! :imsorry:

clumsysod
30-05-13, 17:38
, but this cartridge rollerball section might be a better idea. Ever used one?
I may have just got some from a bad batch but I bought 6 of these and every one is scratchy to write with and nothing like the usual smooth flow of a rollerball.
I speak as I find and cannot recommend them although I am open to persuasion if any body wants to send me some to try for them.

clumsysod
31-05-13, 20:59
I left one with my contact today, let's see what he can come up with.
No promises.
I know he can make them but at what cost?

clumsysod
03-06-13, 18:45
My contact came back to me today and has a production size which is the wider diameter without taper that has the same tensile strength.
I can have a handful approx 500No of these anytime for the price of a pint.
672

This is how they sit when compressed. looks a bit awkward but doesn't slip over the end of the refill so will work fine, lets face it they are not usually seen in this position.
673

He gave me a price for a production run with an initial tooling cost of 100 for the first 2000. Then dependent on frequency of repeat order could be as little as 10 per 1000.
I don't suppose for one minute there would be a frequent order so the tooling cost has to be swallowed up in the first 2000 sales.
Of course this is not to say the price can't be beat nor is he the only supplier but it is my contribution to your query, hope it helps.

Jim
03-06-13, 18:49
Nice work George ... :bwink:

trapper
03-06-13, 20:48
David try pencraft.co.uk...... allways good for odds and ends and some quality kits too from memory if you want one you can have one or more obviously Jim Kerrins and his wife are always extremely helpfull

Jimjam66
04-06-13, 16:47
I can have a handful approx 500No of these anytime for the price of a pint.

That sounds like a good deal! I'll cover the cost of his pint AND yours!


He gave me a price for a production run with an initial tooling cost of 100 for the first 2000. Then dependent on frequency of repeat order could be as little as 10 per 1000.

As you say, the likelihood of needing tens of thousands is vanishingly small, which makes the tooling cost prohibitive.

Thanks for all your efforts, George. Much appreciated!:rock:

clumsysod
04-06-13, 17:09
That sounds like a good deal! I'll cover the cost of his pint AND yours!



As you say, the likelihood of needing tens of thousands is vanishingly small, which makes the tooling cost prohibitive.

Thanks for all your efforts, George. Much appreciated!:rock:

In that case young fella I shall pick some up next time I am in his vicinity.
That may be a couple of weeks or a few days depending on my schedule which can change at a minutes notice.
Pm an address that I can leave in my mailbox then I can access it while in his premises and hopefully get him to parcel and post it too.
Me and wrapping things do not go together in any way shape or form.

clumsysod
04-06-13, 17:27
Cor Blimey guvna!!!
Let me get them first, I seen yer advert, talk abaht a mark up you ain't shy are ya????
Ow many ave yer sold I'll go alves wiv ya.???
SHEAFFER'S PEN FOR MEN FOUNTAIN PEN REPLACEMENT SPRING | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SHEAFFERS-PEN-FOR-MEN-FOUNTAIN-PEN-REPLACEMENT-SPRING-/221230098153?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PensPencils_Writing Equipment_SM&hash=item33825766e9)
:lmao::lmao::lmao:

Jimjam66
04-06-13, 18:30
Cor Blimey guvna!!!
Let me get them first, I seen yer advert, talk abaht a mark up you ain't shy are ya????
Ow many ave yer sold I'll go alves wiv ya.???
SHEAFFER'S PEN FOR MEN FOUNTAIN PEN REPLACEMENT SPRING | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SHEAFFERS-PEN-FOR-MEN-FOUNTAIN-PEN-REPLACEMENT-SPRING-/221230098153?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PensPencils_Writing Equipment_SM&hash=item33825766e9)
:lmao::lmao::lmao:

6.99???? And there was me thinking 4 was daylight robbery ... :nonono:

wm460
04-06-13, 21:14
6.99???? And there was me thinking 4 was daylight robbery ... :nonono:

The government wants their cut as well.:nooidea: