Warranties/Guarantees

[ni9eofse7en]

Does anyone know if a warranty/guarantee still exists on a second hand machine.

I am going to look at a thicknesser later today that is only three months old, which came with a two year warranty. My thoughts are, having done some research without getting a definitive answer, surely the machine warranty is valid irrespective of who owns the machine, buyer or not?

Thanks in advance

 

[Grump]

You are in a grey area here.
Warranty is to the original purchaser from the retailer which is one reason why a receipt is asked for as proof that they supplied it and you indeed are the owner of it.
Warranty from the manufacturer is for the goods against manufacturing defects to the goods, regardless of ownership, providing once again date of purchase and validity of warranty can be proven.
If it becomes known that ownership has changed whether it is warranted or not, both retailer and manufacturer will deny all responsibility as neglect of goods.
Neither party can prove how the party of the first part nor the party of the second part has treated said goods therefore warranty devoid.
That is my understanding as a manufacturer and retailer, although that was a few years ago I don't believe the laws have changed.
I hope that is clear enough to be a satisfactory answer.
If it was a cash transaction and you have the original receipt then nobody can say that you didn't make the retail purchase.
If it was a card transaction then any refund will go to that card and you will lose out but the original purchaser ain't arf had a result init?

 

[Bigblackdog]

There is certainly an argument that it should be valid irrespective of ownership, and would be based on the serial number if you did not have a proof of purchase.

I would also expect that any terms that say it cannot be transferred would be deemed unfair/unreasonable and struck out if it got as far as court.

 

[Penpal]

Take a punt mate sounds like you want it.

Peter.

 

[paulm]

I would give whoever gave the warranty it a call and ask them.

 

[chas_41_uk]

All of the above

 

[Grump]

Not all warrants are what they may at first seem and while a serial number may be traced it could easily lead to a product that was out of warranty before being sold.
Is the company still trading? If not , no warranty.
Is it a current model? If not do they carry spares? If not who is liable?
Is it warranted from date of manufacture or date of purchase? You won't know until you open the box and see if the certificate has been date stamped.
Is it a foreign model and laws applicable to the locale?
And so on and on and on.

Sales of goods act: The purchasers first and only point of contact is the seller your contract is with the seller not the manufacturer.
Bought it second hand, no contract with the seller, therefore no warranty.

Take it to any court in this land and tell them you bought it second hand cos it was a bargain, the original purchaser passed on the warranty without the seller's agreement and see how far you get.

We had a lovely old fashioned shop in Hitchin Neil might remember them, or knowing him be related to them, "Rumbelows Radio".
I went in to buy a valve for dad's wireless. "How many jew want boy I been waiting 16 years to sell one of them", could I expect my warranty to still be valid?
I'll give the ol boy full credit cos we went through his whole stock, all duff and then he not only gave me a full refund but also took the radio and attempted to give a free repair for the inconvenience.
You won't get service like that nowadays.

Any warranty is only as good as the person backing it, that person is only as good as the service they give you.

 

[ni9eofse7en]

Thanks I kind of knew it might be a legal minefield, but bought it anyway.

A Jet JWP12, with two sets of spare blades, shows was manufactured in 2014. The seller seemed honest and genuine so I'm happy with why he was selling on. And he threw some bits he got as part of the Axminster package, a Veritas scribe, a spare Axcaliber saw blade and a 48" x 6" x 2" chunk of Canadian Maple for £150.

I saw it working, he gave me a couple of tips and I know where he lives

No I am a happy boy at this time.

Oh and Brian I remember Rumbelows, My dad did some aerial rigging for the local branch.

 

[Grump]

Good luck John I hope it serves you well, sounds like you got a goodly deal whether it's warranted or not init?
I also did some rigging for them in the old days, a company called Allband aerials locally.
Anything to earn a few bob with a young family to feed init, if it was up a ladder it was my job.

 

[Doug]

You shouldn't get much trouble with the Jet John, I had their free standing thicknesser for a few years & it didn't miss a beat, just follow the maintenance schedule in the machines manual & hopefully you should get years of good service