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Trend Air Pro Airshield

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I have just got a Trend Air Pro Airshield Pro Battery Powered Respirator. It is very good except for its weight which is too heavy for my neck problem which I have. Is there any other similar respirator which is lighter.
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Glen there are a number of powered systems that use a battery on a belt. That puts most of the weight around your waist. These aren't cheap. Here are a couple. 3M Breathe Easy 1 System Assembly | 3M Respirators 3MMBES-1, 3M™ Versaflo™ Heavy Industry PAPR Kit TR-300-HIK | 3M Respirators 3MMTR-300-HIK.

This is the system I use. When sanding I use a tyvek hood which weighs ounces. Also have a hard hat/visor when turning. I have used this over 20 years. I replaced the battery 3 years ago. Air-Mate 12 System Assembly | 3M Respirators 3MMAM-12

When I talk to folks about these systems the price is always mentioned. My answer is what is your good health worth. It's cheaper than emphysema or lung cancer.

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I sold my Trend for the very same reason Glen - weight. And I don't even have a neck problem. I found the thing ridiculously top heavy and cumbersome, and it used to argue with my spectacles too.

My solution was a 3M Versaflo, (it's one of the systems that Terry mentioned above), which I am extremely pleased with.
 

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Yep, Versaflow for me as well...

Never used a trend but heard so many issues with the weight so never bothered.

I have seen some of the older original 3M Airstream packs for sale on fleabay that are also very good. Just the filters are a bit more difficult to get hold of.

The versaflow comes in different models and usually the power pack is separate from the head unit. Expect to pay in the region of £500 new price if you want one tho.. there are cheaper if you search around..(I got a 504 versaflow second hand unit from e bay, paid just under £200 for it)

It may be worth messaging Chas to see if he stil has any as I think he didn't sell them all.:thinks:
 

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I sympathise with you Glen I bought an industrial unit and it felt like and was so heavy it reminded me of thew old deep sea diving helmets. Shut off from the task and horrible.

Peter.
 

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I got a 3m Versaflow from Chas and I also have the Trend Pro. Although I don't have any problems when I use the Trend I find the Versaflow flow much more comfortable :thumbs:
 

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I have a Scott Duraflow. The power pack is on a belt and it works well. The only thing I would say is that the face shield isn't particularly heavy duty - it's not for protection from heavy projectiles - so that is something to consider with whatever system you look at.
 

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I have a Scott Duraflow. The power pack is on a belt and it works well. The only thing I would say is that the face shield isn't particularly heavy duty - it's not for protection from heavy projectiles - so that is something to consider with whatever system you look at.

Right you are Melanie. The hardhat/visor on my rig wouldn't stop a big piece coming off the lathe. We should all be wearing one of these.
 

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I have one of these but don’t use it very often, so can’t really comment much on it but recon it’s probably similar to the Trend Airsheild as the small battery is on the top.
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I checked the Spec on the Trend Pro and it weighs virtually 1kg. I reckon that's quite a lot to have on your head.
 

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I have one of these but don’t use it very often, so can’t really comment much on it but recon it’s probably similar to the Trend Airsheild as the small battery is on the top.
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I have the Axminster one of these and find it is nice and light as well as comfortable, I have worn it for a good 6 hours without any problems. Just check the filter for what you are using it with.
The battery does last as long as stated.
I also brought the visor protectors to save the main face shield from scratches and the like as well as ordering the outer filters, I should have brought the main filters at the same time so at least I have them when needed. So far not needed to change the filters or outer shield protectors yet.
I have had a piece fly off the lathe and hit it full on with no damage to the shield only my pride dented
 

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I had the Axminster version of the JSP Power cap but sent it back for a refund as it did not meet the requirements for working in hardwood.
I got the Trend and it is so much better as far as the quality of air I get to breath. The face seal is way better and air flow appears to be better.
I wish I had gone for the trend first though, after using the power cap I realise just how heavy the trend is. It is till ok to use, it works and I can turn for full days with no problems.
 

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I have a Trend.
It is sitting in a box somewhere. Heavy and putting that shroud on is a pain.
I now use a 3M hat and an industrial strength face shield with a resp-o-rator.
Easier to put on and remove.
The flimsy Trend shield will not stop much.

Phil
 

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The only thing I would say is that the face shield isn't particularly heavy duty - it's not for protection from heavy projectiles - so that is something to consider with whatever system you look at.

Right you are Melanie. The hardhat/visor on my rig wouldn't stop a big piece coming off the lathe. We should all be wearing one of these.

While I agree with the many comments there are a few things to remember about "respiratory protection" and "eye / face protection"

You will see from the advertising that many are sold as a respirators, they reduce the likelihood of dust entering your lungs.

There are sold for the DIY and industrial markets. it usually identifies what they are for in the reference. That is a key area to be aware of.

Every manufacturer for the UK has to supply the units under EU legislation (Until brexit. :rolling:) and they have EN numbers for each of the safety standards. We adopts them so usually have a BS EN number so it shows that we have adopted them.

As for respiratory and eye protection they have been adopted and have a BSEN number

BSEN 12941 for respiratory

http://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/oms/2009/03/om200903app4.pdf

BSEN 166 for eye Protection..

http://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/oms/2009/03/om200903app3.pdf

That's simple isn't it.. :wink:

Well it is! Providing you know what you are looking for, each of the BSEN numbers are followed by a letter for reference to what they can be used for and what "other" protection they offer. The basic respiratory protection for the powered hoods are supplied for the basic needs of respiratory protection and NOT face / Eye protection.

So understanding what you need form a face shield or respiratory protection you need to ensure that both standards are supplied in your selection.

One of the reasons I chose the M400 Versaflow series, its an industrial unit that has high impact visor and high respiratory protection, its expensive but what price do you put on your heath?

The flimsy Trend shield will not stop much.

Phil
Phil the Airsheiled pro details are below, so in reality even though you say "it feeling is flimsy" it should offer medium energy impact.
But what are you mesuring it against, have you ha experience of other units that may feel firmer?

Eye protection= BS EN 166 (Medium Energy Impact)
Respiratory protection (NPF50)= BS EN 12941 THP2 Assigned protection factor= APF20

Just my thoughts, but make sure you select the right piece of PPE for the job you are doing.

EDIT
One thing I did forget to put on here was you can use a lower impact screen but wear higher impact safety glasses.
One of the ways around using lower standard face shields.
 

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I have bought the trend & the jsp they are both sh*t as far as I'm concerned, I prefer to use a Camvac & air filter

Spot on, PPE is the last form of defence..

Only use it if the extractor / vacuum unit is not taking the dust away. But do you know how good your system is:thinks:
 
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