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    Thank you for taking the time to write out your method! I had tried to collate this information from previous posts you have made on the subject - but there was more than a few pieces of information there that I had not gathered. Will definitely be using this, thanks again!


     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Dart View Post
    I'm pretty sure abranet is abranet, but I buy mine in boxes of 50 in sheet form rather than disk form. I get mine from a local tool company in Inverness, which is the best value I've found, but you can also get it from Turner's Retreat and a few other places - not much help to you in Australia I know. Ebay is generally the most expensive way possible to buy it, because all they do is buy a box of 50 then split it up and sell it in small quantities for more than they paid for it, so it's worth doing a bit of research and shopping around.

    On the face of it, it does seem very pricey stuff, but it lasts much longer than any paper or fabric backed abrasives I've ever come across. Having said that, you don't have to use abranet - that's just my personal choice of abrasive. If it does a good job, whatever you use now will be just as good.
    I have been looking on and off for years ever I first heard of it.
    First tie I have ever seen it a an affordable price, BUT the postage is

    4 X MIRKA Abranet 77mm abrasive sanding discs (pack of 10 pads)
    1 X pad saver

    Subtotal (5 items) AU $37.00
    Posting AU $37.00
    Total AU $74.00

    Oh well keep looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wm460 View Post
    I have been looking on and off for years ever I first heard of it.
    First tie I have ever seen it a an affordable price, BUT the postage is

    4 X MIRKA Abranet 77mm abrasive sanding discs (pack of 10 pads)
    1 X pad saver

    Subtotal (5 items) AU $37.00
    Posting AU $37.00
    Total AU $74.00

    Oh well keep looking.
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    Hi Phil...first attempt at your finishing method. I've a way to go...but getting there.

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    Thats a good looking Pen and well presented Lee

     
     
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    Possibly more aimed at Phil as he seems to be the main man for melamine finishes, or Walter, but having tried to get a good finish with melamine on my last few pens, I'm still struggling to get that perfect finish. One thing I've noticed is that when disassembling the newly melamine coated blank from the bushes, the melamine on the ends is a little stick and wipe offable...which shows just how long this stuff can take to go off.

    I'm in no rush to make some pens, so my thought is to follow the Phil method and get the best possible finish. Apparently this stuff takes 28 days to fully cure so I'm wondering if perhaps after 28 days it can be put back on the lathe for a little de nib work, possibly with the micro mesh?

    When using ca I get an unbelievably smooth shiny finish...but mainly after sanding to 12000 grit. This isn't possible straight away with the melamine as it's too soft initially. I'm therefore wondering if 28 days after applying it could be put through the same micro mesh process as the ca...but having little experience with melamine I've no idea if this would actually work.

    Be interesting to get a few thoughts on this...I've simply no idea what the difference is between freshly applied melamine and 28 day old melamine is.
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    I do not know the answer to leaving the Melamine for 28 days Lee think that will be Phils or Walters domain as you say. I did have a go at using Melamine yesterday on half a slimline pen the other half had a celtic knot which exploded on me while turning so turned the other half between centres and tried Phils method. Apart from the fact that I did not have the kind of paper Phil uses so used the rougher side of greasproof paper and was pleased with the result apart from the Melonine went on a bit lumpy due to I suspect the properties of the paper but the blank was almost as glossy as ca and at the very least can see that it is a usable alternative or choice of finish to ca. The fumes of the CA do not bother me so much as they are vented away from me by my dust collection system so will use it from time to time.

    I think it is good to try other finishes and methods until you find the one that suits you. Hope to find some single ply tissue tomorrow and carry on with Phils method until I have perfected it then will post my creation on here.

     
     
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    Nice article Phil thanks for taking the time to prepare it. May I suggest though that next time you try a three column layout as it's far easier to read, particularly on electronic devices. If you look at some of Walters articles you'll see what I mean.

     
     
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    I managed to get some blue tissue a roll was given to me to try FOC while at the local emporium. To try and follow Phils method I purchased Abranet from 180-600 the sand sealer mixed as Phil suggests I have had for some time as with the Melamine. I have a block of Zebrano which I resawed some of for pen blanks so made 2 Siera pens the top gold one was finished with ca the second was done to Phils recipe for Melamine finish. So first observation (and nothing to do with Phils instructions but everything to do with my learning curve) is Abranet takes a lot more wood off than cloth backed sandpaper so I need to leave a bit more wood onboard before I finish with Abranet. The second observation is the pen comes out a litle lighter with Melamine but might be my technique in either finish but I am pleased with the result with the Melamine it gives a satin finish and after trying it out will be making pens with Melamine finish and ca.

    Top pen ca

    Bottom pen Melamine the top pen is slightly blured due to DOF and the fact I am a numpty for having the lens wide open

     
     
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    Sorry photo never uploaded 2nd try:-

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