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Hi everyone, I've been asked to make a pen and pencil kit for my nephew. I don't make many pencils so am looking for your advice on which kit to go for. The only one i make regularly is the sketch pencil but this is too large for the purpose. I find the slimline pencils not great and unreliable. Let me know what you think.
 

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Hi everyone, I've been asked to make a pen and pencil kit for my nephew. I don't make many pencils so am looking for your advice on which kit to go for. The only one i make regularly is the sketch pencil but this is too large for the purpose. I find the slimline pencils not great and unreliable. Let me know what you think.

Dave G does a Sierra Pencil kit which is really nice Sierra Pencil Kits - Penkitzandbitz



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Our very own Phil@Beaufort Ink sells mechanical pencil refills that would replace the refills in a lot of the pen kits that take Parker style Refills, so you could possibly convert a pen kit to mechanical pencil, I'm sure Phil will be along sometime to shed a bit more light on this:thinks:
 

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It depends how much you want to spend on your nephew Stephen - you tend to get what you pay for in a pencil kit in terms of quality.

There are a few matching pen/pencil sets out there, a couple of which have been mentioned. The Beaufort pencil insert that Paul is referring to is the same insert that comes with the Mistral pencil, and it will serve in a lot of parker refill type ballpoint kits as a conversion. You need to make sure that the tip of it doesn't protrude too much through the nib section of the kit, (generally speaking, the only way you will find that out is by trying it) and if it's OK, careful trimming of the black stalk at the end of the insert will allow it to convert a pen kit to a pencil. There is a choice of either 0.7mm or 0.5mm leads.

Pen kit spares

Another alternative would be a Mistral pen and a Mistral pencil, but you might not want to pay that much.

Beaufort Mistral high end pen kits.
 

stiofanpadraigcrafts

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It depends how much you want to spend on your nephew Stephen - you tend to get what you pay for in a pencil kit in terms of quality.

There are a few matching pen/pencil sets out there, a couple of which have been mentioned. The Beaufort pencil insert that Paul is referring to is the same insert that comes with the Mistral pencil, and it will serve in a lot of parker refill type ballpoint kits as a conversion. You need to make sure that the tip of it doesn't protrude too much through the nib section of the kit, (generally speaking, the only way you will find that out is by trying it) and if it's OK, careful trimming of the black stalk at the end of the insert will allow it to convert a pen kit to a pencil. There is a choice of either 0.7mm or 0.5mm leads.

Pen kit spares

Another alternative would be a Mistral pen and a Mistral pencil, but you might not want to pay that much.

Beaufort Mistral high end pen kits.

Hi Phil, if it was me paying for it i would be using the mistral set but it's my sister buying it because he graduated. she liked the look of the epsilon kit but i knew there wasn't a matching pencil for it. I think the irish finial swung it for her. Would your conversion for the pencil work in that or is it only push button models?
 

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Hi Phil, Would your conversion for the pencil work in that or is it only push button models?

It works on the twist pens!
I just turned a pair of psi executives yesterday & converted one to a mechanical pencil using Beauforts converter, you just turn the twist mechanism to extend the lead, then turn it back to lock it. So pretty much one turn clockwise & then turn anti-clockwise pushes the mechanism one click! Hope I've explained this well enough (I'm not very good at explaining things lol)

Edit: I'm just about to post a photo of the set on the forum
 

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The Beaufort pencil mechanism is excellent :thumbs: The inly other mechanism I have tried was a slimline and it was very poor indeed. So bad that I have only made one of the 5 I bought :sob:
 

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The converter seems to be the way to go. I have not had good luck with Slimlines over the long haul - mechanisms seem to wear out. I am going to try a converter and then a better pen set to convert. Good luck on your quest.
 
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