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The pen that caused the tantrum

Jimjam66

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I finally finished the pen that had me threatening to throw my lathe in the river. The idea was (I think) a good one - a pen with a chess piece on the cap, and a chessboard on the barrel. I had a vision of the inlays being shiny chrome/silver to match the findings on the kit. So ...

First, turn a blank (I started with a stunning camatillo RW, but %$£@ed it up so ended with a bubinga) down to 16.5mm diameter. Tolerance is wide, around 1/4mm either way. Chuck it in the fourth axis of the CNC mill and take the pattern down about 2mm. (Which turned out to be spot on for the chess piece on the cap, but should have been around 3.5mm depth for the chequerboard on the barrel.):

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Fill the voids with the inlay material. (As an aside this is no mean feat as we are dealing with the outer surface of a cylinder.) This is where things went wrong - I used atomised aluminium powder mixed into epoxy resin, but as you will see it didn't colour right and had other problems! :

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Re-mount the blank on the lathe and turn down the excess inlay material, trying to maintain around 16.5mm diameter:

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Fix any major voids now, pinholes may turn away and new ones appear at lower levels. Turn away excess inlay material again, then cut the cap and barrel blanks apart, drill, insert tubes and turn as normal from there.

This is the result:

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Lessons learned:

1. Ally powder and epoxy doth not a silver-chrome inlay make. Any ideas what might? I thought of melting pewter and pouring into the inlay cavities next time?
:nooidea:

2. Open-grained woods like Bubinga are not ideal when you are re-filling pinholes and voids, as the inlay material strays into the grain and looks poo ...
:rolling:

3. Just because you have a great idea, don't expect to nail it on the first attempt!
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That looks pretty amazing, I had no idea CNC machines could do such things, no wonder they're very expensive. I want one all the same. I'm not sure what powder will come up nice and shiny. I've used the copper powder before and it has come up reasonable with just sanding down to 600 :nooidea::thinks:
 

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That looks pretty amazing, I had no idea CNC machines could do such things, no wonder they're very expensive. I want one all the same. I'm not sure what powder will come up nice and shiny. I've used the copper powder before and it has come up reasonable with just sanding down to 600 :nooidea::thinks:

Cnc can do some amazing things when you get in to 5 axis


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'kin excellent David, you are the master of the cnc. I've used pewter before and found the pewter creeped into the grain very very slightly which showed. I turned the edges of it and put in some other stuff but in your case if you did pewter, then went around the edges again with the cnc you could put black powder to enhance the chess board... oh but what a lot of work if it doesn't work out. :thumbs:
 

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Thanks for the comments, guys.

I've used the copper powder before and it has come up reasonable with just sanding down to 600 :nooidea::thinks:

Ray, I have used brass (atomised which comes out a bit greenish, and lathe filings which are brilliant) but the findings on this kit are chrome so I wanted to try match them.

'kin excellent David, you are the master of the cnc. I've used pewter before and found the pewter creeped into the grain very very slightly which showed. I turned the edges of it and put in some other stuff but in your case if you did pewter, then went around the edges again with the cnc you could put black powder to enhance the chess board... oh but what a lot of work if it doesn't work out. :thumbs:

Get thee behind me, Satan! :devil: Bl**dy 'ell, if I had a meltdown trying this, imagine the strop I'd end up throwing if I tried that!

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Although now that you've planted the seed ... :bwink:
 

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The grey look is normally due to not enough powder. You need a lot more than you think when adding to epoxy.
If you have problems applying it to a cylinder then there is definitely not enough powder as it should be the consistency of a very thick paste and not runny at all. Brass is the same, not enough powder and it will polish to green.
 

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What a great attempt . My lathe would have definitely gone in the river even at the thought of attempting such a project.

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1. Ally powder and epoxy doth not a silver-chrome inlay make. Any ideas what might? I thought of melting pewter and pouring into the inlay cavities next time?
:nooidea:

Pearl-Ex or mica silvers, with a bit of micro pearl in it.

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Just bought a three axis baby steps but will work up to 4 axis. Very nice Pen can't wait to get started with my cnc.
 

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Excellent first effort David, many of us on here would be very proud to have made such a pen, maybe you are a little hard on yourself my friend .. Love it!! .. :thumbs:
 

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John, even with three axes you will have a ball! Shout if you need help, Paul M, Alex Bellringer and I have some knowledge to share.

The grey look is normally due to not enough powder. You need a lot more than you think when adding to epoxy.
If you have problems applying it to a cylinder then there is definitely not enough powder as it should be the consistency of a very thick paste and not runny at all. Brass is the same, not enough powder and it will polish to green.

I wondered about that, Neil. I used five-minute epoxy and rushed the job to avoid it setting as I worked, but maybe I should try again with lots more powder.

Pearl-Ex or mica silvers, with a bit of micro pearl in it.

Peter

Now that might also be worth a look - dunno why I never thought of them? :nooidea:
 

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John, even with three axes you will have a ball! Shout if you need help, Paul M, Alex Bellringer and I have some knowledge to share.

I know a bit not much but I know a bit more about tools to use for what


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This is a can crusher that was made in 2011, by an A level student.
The handle is Mahogany with aluminium powder banding.can crusher_586x480.jpg

The handle was turned and rebated with a parting tool.
A large amount of powder was mixed in with a small amount of 5 min Araldite, and pushed in to the rebates.
If the paste is thick enough it can't creep into the surrounding wood, and should give a clean edge.
 

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Excellent work David, top draw and worth the risk of dumping the lathe in the drink..

Your work with the cnc are second to none and well respected in the forms you create.. :thumbs:
 
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