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Use it or bin it ... take 2

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Following on from Roy's post yesterday I had a go at a piece of the rose root I've previously had a go at and shown on here. The remaining bits I've cut up at the moment have twisted and turned beyond belief and it was impossible to drill a straight line through.

I drill the holes as best as I could and on one piece a hole appeared down the side about 3/4inch long which the tube could clearly be seen when glued in. I turned the other half first to produce some shavings which I then glued into the void with ca.
 

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For me mate, you've done it. The repair doesn't stand out and as there is a balance between both tubes visually the result is a good one. Nice save Paul! :thumbs:
 

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There are some blanks that are well worth salvaging and that is one of them. It's another beauty with a fantastic finish.

Have you got CA wrapping round on the end of the top barrel, it looks like it, if it is did you have problems polishing it?

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There are some blanks that are well worth salvaging and that is one of them. It's another beauty with a fantastic finish.

Have you got CA wrapping round on the end of the top barrel, it looks like it, if it is did you have problems polishing it?

Peter

Its not ca Peter, its part of the grain.
 

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If I do get ridges in the ca Peter, what I do is sand it with 400grit lightly until all the ridges have gone, in fact this is becoming part of my polishing routine anyway even if there aren't any ridges. When the whole surface has a uniform whiteness about it, I then wet and dry and polish.
 

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If I do get ridges in the ca Peter, what I do is sand it with 400grit lightly until all the ridges have gone, in fact this is becoming part of my polishing routine anyway even if there aren't any ridges. When the whole surface has a uniform whiteness about it, I then wet and dry and polish.

I wasn't saying I thought there was ridges, I thought you had managed to put CA on the end so that it was bonded around from the sides, I have tried to do that, but not successfully.

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Looks bloody lovely to me, Nicely turned, well finished, great pictures, uniquely styled.
All round winner init?
 

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I wasn't saying I thought there was ridges, I thought you had managed to put CA on the end so that it was bonded around from the sides, I have tried to do that, but not successfully.

Peter

I may be being thick here Peter but I'm not sure what you mean.
 

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I may be being thick here Peter but I'm not sure what you mean.

I think I haven't explained it well. On the cap the CA is all the way along the blank, but not on the end. When I have made a cap like yours where it is a larger diameter than the lower barrel I wanted the end of the top cap or barrel to have CA on the end so that it looked integral to the rest of the CA, but the problem is that I have never successfully managed to polish it well as I usually end up breaking through the CA on the edge. I am still not sure that is understandable. I know what I men I just can't seem to find a way to say it :pray:

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Fill end grain with ca, buff on wheel file internal back to fit, should all be hunky dory init?
 

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Fill end grain with ca, buff on wheel file internal back to fit, should all be hunky dory init?

Well Doh!, I knew there was a way to do it, I just couldn't figure out how, it would have come to me in a few years.

Thanks for that:thumbs:, I will call that process the Grump Finish.

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Buffing is the way i'll go, what kind of polish are you talking about?

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Ah, I manage to get a lot of ca on, all over so and am very careful to only sand lightly on the corners.
 

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Buffing is the way to go but sorry dad I differ my method, I want that filled with hard ca so it don't break up on me init.
Thin ca will soak a lot deeper into the grain before it sets making a much more solid barrel.
I always seal ends with ca before even putting it on the mandrel, helps when finishing stopping any water regress from wet sanding and I am sure it creates a better bond for ca finishing.

Having said that if my intention is to oil or polish the blank then I seal ends with the appropriate finish.
It's part of my preparation process, open end grain is a cause of many a failed product. I also seal the inside of the blank before inserting tubes. (ca only)
Preparation is the art of finishing.
 

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Ah, I manage to get a lot of ca on, all over so and am very careful to only sand lightly on the corners.

I have tried micro-meshing lightly and almost achieved it, but now with Brian's solution I think it will be successful and easier to be repeatable.

Peter
 

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Buffing is the way to go but sorry dad I differ my method, I want that filled with hard ca so it don't break up on me init.
Thin ca will soak a lot deeper into the grain before it sets making a much more solid barrel.
I always seal ends with ca before even putting it on the mandrel, helps when finishing stopping any water regress from wet sanding and I am sure it creates a better bond for ca finishing.

Having said that if my intention is to oil or polish the blank then I seal ends with the appropriate finish.
It's part of my preparation process, open end grain is a cause of many a failed product. I also seal the inside of the blank before inserting tubes. (ca only)
Preparation is the art of finishing.

Sealing the end with ca before turning is a very good tip Brian, one that I keep remembering every time I don't do it and cock it up
 

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The save is brilliant, the wood is top rate and something special simply because the likes of rose root can't be purchased only "self generated". I also love the way you finish the centre with no band, a specialty of yours ! What can one say about depth of your shine - it's deep !!
Regards Terry
 
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