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Ally swarf in clear resin
- Thread starter Woody
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- Mark
That a beauty Woody,
have you tried brass and copper swarf?
have you tried brass and copper swarf?
That a beauty Woody,
Hi Mark
Peter is sending me one with brass not sure about copper it would have to go on a copper kit so it would be a bit restricted but Peter is the main man in this as it is all his idea and he is the one making them without him none of this would have happened he is the Maestro on this one so I owe him a bloody great big thank you for the privilege of turning another one of his beautiful brainwave blanks, there are so many talented people on this forum and I have had some extraordinary blanks sent to me that these guys have made I wouldn't have a scooby were to start casting blanks
And again a big thank you to every one who has commented on this post form Peter the main man and myself
Woody very nice pen with a very well matched pen kit.
Peter, can briefly described how you make the blanks cos I have tons of shaving in my shop.
Now let me see, in my machine shop I have brass shaving, mild steel shaving, stainless steel shaving, alumimium shaving, GOLD shaving, which should I used to try out.
Peter, can briefly described how you make the blanks cos I have tons of shaving in my shop.
Now let me see, in my machine shop I have brass shaving, mild steel shaving, stainless steel shaving, alumimium shaving, GOLD shaving, which should I used to try out.
One stunning pen Woody - lovely casting Peter.
Now let me see, in my machine shop I have brass shaving, mild steel shaving, stainless steel shaving, alumimium shaving, GOLD shaving, which should I used to try out.
Be very careful, gold is the worst, don't even be tempted by it, I can help you out if you send me enough for two blanks, I will send you a blank and you have eluded the danger
Peter
Woody, thanks, but I am certainly no Maestro on this one. I may be the first here to try it and I may have been lucky with how they end up, but it is all down to an enormous amount of luck.
I have got copper and that will come up in the future, but like you say a copper kit would probably be best and there's not a lot of choice in those, plus copper can be a grabby bugger.
Peter
Woody very nice pen with a very well matched pen kit.
Peter, can briefly described how you make the blanks cos I have tons of shaving in my shop.
Now let me see, in my machine shop I have brass shaving, mild steel shaving, stainless steel shaving, alumimium shaving, GOLD shaving, which should I used to try out.
I think you should try the brass, and aluminium Edward but send me the gold as it probably needs special treatment
Woody very nice pen with a very well matched pen kit.
Peter, can briefly described how you make the blanks cos I have tons of shaving in my shop.
Now let me see, in my machine shop I have brass shaving, mild steel shaving, stainless steel shaving, alumimium shaving, GOLD shaving, which should I used to try out.
Sorry I forgot to answer your question. I used pvc tube to put the swarf in and then poured waterclear polyester resin in. The problem with using a tube is that you don't always get a uniform amount of swarf along the tube. It might be better to use an oblong mould as you could then arrange the swarf as you wish.
I would use the aluminium first as it is easier to turn, I would imagine that the stainless would not be great as it is very tough and if you get a catch or it doesn't cut cleanly then it can drag out or break bits of the resin. If you do SS let us know how it goes although I doubt that I would be bothered making one from SS.
Peter
Peter you have already had more success than me.
I tried this some years ago when I was working with plastics, a different material, I used copper.
I found as you have said the copper simply tore its way out of the plastic.
I ended up painting the brass tube and sliding the copper shaving down inside a clear acrylic tube.
The recipient was happy but I wasn't.
Good luck with your venture, they sure look good so far.
I tried this some years ago when I was working with plastics, a different material, I used copper.
I found as you have said the copper simply tore its way out of the plastic.
I ended up painting the brass tube and sliding the copper shaving down inside a clear acrylic tube.
The recipient was happy but I wasn't.
Good luck with your venture, they sure look good so far.
Copper is a bugger and I think SS wouldn't work, but I am only guessing at that. I have lots of silver and I was tempted to use it that's why I did ally first, but I won't be using the silver in the same way, it would be a waste I think.
I will make a few more, but like the pine cones been there, done that. I'll move on after a few more
Peter
I love that blank ! Nicely made up of course by His Grace.
Very clever, I can see how casting becomes addictive, I guess you're only limited by your (or others) imagination.
I'd gladly buy that blank given the opportunity.
Very clever, I can see how casting becomes addictive, I guess you're only limited by your (or others) imagination.
I'd gladly buy that blank given the opportunity.
Make some design on a tube and if you don't have resin send it to me and I will cast it in clear for you. A filigree outer skin on a blank perhaps all nicely soldered together.
Peter
Peter
Your swarf is in curly continuous form or just in very short length, I believe brass chip could be different because it is in small tiny silver form.
Btw, will it help if I manually compressed the swarf in the tube so that it will be evenly distributed in the tube?
Don't know what brass you have been machining but the last 1tonne of brass swaf i saw was gold
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Sorry, I was refering to bronze which will come off the machine in tiny needle like form.
My take on stainless steel (SS) swarf as a trained precision machinist is that, it will tearing out from the Polyster resin, reason is that the resin is much too softer and flexible than SS which itself is already very tough to work it especially with hand held tool.
However, if we can compact the SS swarf into cylinderical form, I believe it is still possible to machined it on a metal lathe with very sharp tool and very light cut.
I am most willing to try it if someone can cast the blank for me.
However, if we can compact the SS swarf into cylinderical form, I believe it is still possible to machined it on a metal lathe with very sharp tool and very light cut.
I am most willing to try it if someone can cast the blank for me.
If you try the brass chip it may be fantastic. The trouble with compressing the swarf is that if you compress it a lot then you might not have enough acrylic to hold the swarf in when you turn, it can easily rip out the acrylic as it may not be enough to hold onto the swarf. I found that by gently tapping the tube on a surface the smaller bits of swarf went down the tube, the problem is the larger swarf as it sticks to each other and doesn't get distributed evenly along the length of the tube.
Just try one and you will see what I mean, it's not insurmountable.
Peter
If you compact it I don't think there would be enough resin to hold it. I have a metal lathe and could do it myself, but my thinking is that it wouldn't work well enough for me to take the trouble to try it, but I could be wrong.
Peter