Advice needed on dust/chip extractor

bigbob · Oct 29, 2015

Hi all need advice for dust/chip removal. I have been using an old wickes hoover that I bought many moons ago and now I am going to spend more time in the workshop making it a safer environment is on the cards.
I have a planer thicknesser a bandsaw a Router with table several benchsaws a bench sander and last but not least my lathe so basically needing something to remove chips shavings and dust I have seen one in screwfix for about £120 and a sip one in Toolstation for just under the hundred pound mark will this do the job or will I need to aim a bit higher quality wise bearing in mind this is a hobby and not my full time job?

Woody · Oct 29, 2015

If I were you I would go for the two bag type not the bin type they have better filtration and are a lot quieter something like this Fox F50-841 1hp Dust Extractor @£179.99

Penpal · Oct 29, 2015

If you have the room get as big as you can on wheels to serve as many units as you can to enable the best removal you can only one you look after yourself mate.

Peter.

rayf6604 · Oct 29, 2015

With the greatest of respect to Woody, the bag type don't filter fine enough for dust and you should be looking at least 1 micron if not 0.5 micron filtration for dust unless you have other filters like a dust mask or Trend Air pro. I have found it nigh on impossible to catch the shavings from my lathe unless you try an enormous hood collector which would likely get in the way.
The machine Woody linked to will be fine I'm sure for all your other machines, unless you cut MDF.
All just my opinion. I use a bin type which filters to 0.5 micron and I only use it for sucking dust when I'm sanding on the lathe or sanding using my belt sander. I'm getting a new Trend Airshield for when I'm turning.

Woody · Oct 29, 2015

I will be using one of these as my first line of defence against dust also the Microclene air filter as a second line of defence Microclene and the trend air shield as a third line of defence Trend Airshield Pro - Respiratory Protection - Powered - Respiratory Protection - Safety & Workwear | Axminster Tools & Machinery

Doug · Oct 30, 2015

Hi Bob,

From the sounds of things you need something like this Axminster Hobby Series AWEDE2 Extractor & Filter Cartridge - PACKAGE DEAL - Chip Extractors - Dust Extraction & Wood Waste - Wood Working | Axminster Tools & Machinery
Whilst not recommending this model or brand, this type of extractor when fitted with the filter & a plastic collection sack will deal with everything your Hoover won't & should filter down to 1 micron, though you need to check the specs of the machine in this regard.

I've used a similar more industrial machine for many years & am very happy with it.

silver · Oct 30, 2015

A big topic to advice on Bob, many personal idea will come from this thread.

But I won't give you mine as I believe Doug has covered the main points in what is needed.

However for research have a look at Bill Pentz web site. Loads of info and great advice. Link below.

Dust Collection Research - Home

Penpal · Oct 30, 2015

The more and varied as Woody says another way to travel and I commend it.

Peter.

bigbob · Oct 30, 2015

Thank you everyone unfortunately I do not have space in my workshop for the system you suggested Woody and Doug my workshop is 10x10 feet approx and is fairly full I am in the process of putting everything back after insulation and was thinking about a drum style extractor maybe to fit under one of my benches as I figure anything is better than what I have. I have a separate mask for using with ca glue and you can not even smell the stuff so guess that would be good to put on when sanding plus whatever I get. As a picture paints a 1000 words I will go out and take a picture of the workshop although it is a bit untidy at the moment until its all sorted out back in a mo.

wm460 · Oct 30, 2015

I would go to a 2hp chip/dust collector, a cyclone set up is the way to go. :thumbs:

bigbob · Oct 30, 2015

Thanks Mark,
My local dealer stocks Camvac and Record dust extractors plus I can get the two I mentioned in the first post locally. Anyhow below is the size of workshop I have to fit it in the lawnmower is going and have yet to put the planer thicknesser and router table in yet.
Front of shed

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Grump · Oct 30, 2015

A very serious subject and one to be much considered.
Having lost a business partner to asbestos related illness I wondered what i would do about dust extraction.
I now have installed a 3 stage system.
Stage 1 for the chips and big chunks I use this.

For the finer dust I have this.

And the extra fine micro dust this is the ultimate in extraction for my shed.

bigbob · Oct 30, 2015

Hi Brian yours is the most cheapest solution

flexi · Oct 30, 2015

My opinion with dust extraction is use the best you can afford, your health is important....but in reallity its a case of "suck it and see" what works best for you :devil:

Jim · Oct 30, 2015

The extractors under the bench do a good job Bob, but can be very noisy .. :thinks:

I like the stand that the drill sits on, is this from a plan or your own design? :thinks:

wm460 · Oct 30, 2015

Bob, can you build an enclosure outside for a dust collector and run the duct work through the wall to it?

bigbob · Oct 30, 2015

Hi Jim think I got the idea for the bandsaw stand off utube and extrapolated it for the drill with a shelf underneath to hold boxes of drills I use a chop saw set at 10 degrees to make it I am halfway through making a stand for the planer thicknesser using the same idea ah found the link the only difference is I use pocket hole jig and glue and screw:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLszJTtFp7E

Mark I did think about this and found a link where someone had used this method :thinks:

can not remember where but it worked fine except it sucked all the hot air in the workshop outside so given the cold climate we have up here in the winter thought this might be counterproductive especially as I have just insulated the shed :whistling:

bigbob · Oct 30, 2015

only difference is I use pocket hole jig and glue and screw

Doh so does he :goesred:

Jim · Oct 30, 2015

Thanks Bob, now i just sold my Kreg .. :whistling:

wm460 · Oct 30, 2015

bigbob said:
Mark I did think about this and found a link where someone had used this method can not remember where but it worked fine except it sucked all the hot air in the workshop outside so given the cold climate we have up here in the winter thought this might be counterproductive especially as I have just insulated the shed

Believe me Bob it dont work like like that, if it 40°C in my shed and run the DC for a number of hours it still bloody 40°C in the shed. :sob:

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